North Korea... about to make a big mistake?

[Tetge]

It appears that the North Koreans have the ability to inflict heavy causalities on South Korea before they would be wiped from the face of the earth. So, in effect they are holding the 400,000 to 1,000,000 South Koreans that they could kill as hostages while they posture and menace and strut and threaten. And, their justification for this is that they are still at war so, if they attack, what would be unusual about this, as that is what people at war do? It seems that something needs to be done to end the Korean war after all these years. And, it is still my belief that Korea, including South Korea, is in the Chinese sphere of influence. And the Japanese are also right there in the hood. It would be nice if these rich and powerful Asian countries took action on North Korea rather than let the US police their part of the world. But, as usual, North Korea goes really crazy the US could get involved in some nasty fighting.

[Brakelate]

It would be nice if these rich and powerful Asian countries took action on North Korea rather than let the US police their part of the world.

Excellent point. Earned you a "Thanks".




Whatever that is. Not sure, but I naturally want to be on the top of that list.

[SonicVenum]

I would imagine Un has some sort of advisers that tell him acting on the threats could have serious consequences. Considering the household he grew up in, it's no surprise he acts so nutty.

[Brakelate]

Well, there has been some whacky stuff occurring over the years. One of which that went largely unnoticed (possibly because it was sort of before our time for a few of us) was the "Hatchett Incident", where a crew of US Army went down to the grey area "no man's land" between the border of North and South Korea. They wanted to cut down a big Poplar tree, as it prevented a clear line of sight between two of the remote outposts along the US side of the border. While doing so, a large force of North Koreans approached them and an argument ensued as to who's side of the border the tree was actually on. At some point, the US commanding officer of the work *unarmed* work crew turned his back on the head officer of the North Korean group, and the North Korean attacked. This started a brawl, during which the North Koreans overwhelmed the much smaller American work force, grabbing the work tools and such. At some point they ran down and killed two members of the US work force, including the Commanding Officer with one of the Axes they had been using to cut down the tree. In response, the US and South American forces went on full alert, and several days later returned in much greater forced, reportedly unarmed, but with serious firepower on immediate stand by on both land and air. They cut down the tree, fortified the access road from North to South (known as the bridge to no where) and then fell back to resume the cold war stand off. That was in 1976.

I had not heard about this until recently, but am a bit surprised it hasn't received more press, especially in the recent days.

*Reference: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b3a_1364016646

[xjrguy]

Well, there has been some whacky stuff occurring over the years. One of which that went largely unnoticed (possibly because it was sort of before our time for a few of us) was the "Hatchett Incident", where a crew of US Army went down to the grey area "no man's land" between the border of North and South Korea. They wanted to cut down a big Poplar tree, as it prevented a clear line of sight between two of the remote outposts along the US side of the border. While doing so, a large force of North Koreans approached them and an argument ensued as to who's side of the border the tree was actually on. At some point, the US commanding officer of the work *unarmed* work crew turned his back on the head officer of the North Korean group, and the North Korean attacked. This started a brawl, during which the North Koreans overwhelmed the much smaller American work force, grabbing the work tools and such. At some point they ran down and killed two members of the US work force, including the Commanding Officer with one of the Axes they had been using to cut down the tree. In response, the US and South American forces went on full alert, and several days later returned in much greater forced, reportedly unarmed, but with serious firepower on immediate stand by on both land and air. They cut down the tree, fortified the access road from North to South (known as the bridge to no where) and then fell back to resume the cold war stand off. That was in 1976.

I had not heard about this until recently, but am a bit surprised it hasn't received more press, especially in the recent days.

*Reference: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b3a_1364016646

What were the South Americans doing there?

[SonicVenum]

Well, there has been some whacky stuff occurring over the years. One of which that went largely unnoticed (possibly because it was sort of before our time for a few of us) was the "Hatchett Incident", where a crew of US Army went down to the grey area "no man's land" between the border of North and South Korea. They wanted to cut down a big Poplar tree, as it prevented a clear line of sight between two of the remote outposts along the US side of the border. While doing so, a large force of North Koreans approached them and an argument ensued as to who's side of the border the tree was actually on. At some point, the US commanding officer of the work *unarmed* work crew turned his back on the head officer of the North Korean group, and the North Korean attacked. This started a brawl, during which the North Koreans overwhelmed the much smaller American work force, grabbing the work tools and such. At some point they ran down and killed two members of the US work force, including the Commanding Officer with one of the Axes they had been using to cut down the tree. In response, the US and South American forces went on full alert, and several days later returned in much greater forced, reportedly unarmed, but with serious firepower on immediate stand by on both land and air. They cut down the tree, fortified the access road from North to South (known as the bridge to no where) and then fell back to resume the cold war stand off. That was in 1976.

I had not heard about this until recently, but am a bit surprised it hasn't received more press, especially in the recent days.

*Reference: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b3a_1364016646

Wow, crazy stuff. It's strange the things we do when we're in a stand off.

[Brakelate]

The whole particular event sounds like a typical silly "neighbor dispute" over a tree, and a property line. But, it ended with a US Officer and another soldier being killed, quite violently with a Axe by an angry mob, with the soldiers of the North taking turns to go down and take a whack at the other soldier found hiding nearby.

Sadly, as the story goes, the Officer was due to ship out later that day to return home. Due to a re-assignment state side, or retirement from the service, I do not recall, but it was that close for him from what I recall. And he was reported to be a good, competent leader, enjoyed and respected by his troops. Unfortunately it was his calm, casual demeanor that apparently cost him his life, as he dismissed the threat before him and turned to walk away to diffuse the whole thing, when he was attacked.

[xjrguy]

Well, there has been some whacky stuff occurring over the years. One of which that went largely unnoticed (possibly because it was sort of before our time for a few of us) was the "Hatchett Incident", where a crew of US Army went down to the grey area "no man's land" between the border of North and South Korea. They wanted to cut down a big Poplar tree, as it prevented a clear line of sight between two of the remote outposts along the US side of the border. While doing so, a large force of North Koreans approached them and an argument ensued as to who's side of the border the tree was actually on. At some point, the US commanding officer of the work *unarmed* work crew turned his back on the head officer of the North Korean group, and the North Korean attacked. This started a brawl, during which the North Koreans overwhelmed the much smaller American work force, grabbing the work tools and such. At some point they ran down and killed two members of the US work force, including the Commanding Officer with one of the Axes they had been using to cut down the tree. In response, the US and South American forces went on full alert, and several days later returned in much greater forced, reportedly unarmed, but with serious firepower on immediate stand by on both land and air. They cut down the tree, fortified the access road from North to South (known as the bridge to no where) and then fell back to resume the cold war stand off. That was in 1976.

I had not heard about this until recently, but am a bit surprised it hasn't received more press, especially in the recent days.

*Reference: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b3a_1364016646

Wow, crazy stuff. It's strange the things we do when we're in a stand off.

Also amazing some of the shit our supposed "allies" pull as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

[SonicVenum]

Unfortunately it was his calm, casual demeanor that apparently cost him his life, as he dismissed the threat before him and turned to walk away to diffuse the whole thing, when he was attacked.

In one of the business classes I took, we studied the different communication styles found around the world. I wonder if turning your back on someone in North Korea is extremely offensive? Like you said, he might have been trying to diffuse the situation, but it may have been taken as a sign of supreme disrespect. Of course, this is no justification for killing someone over a tree, especially in such a brutal manner.

[Brakelate]

Also amazing some of the shit our supposed "allies" pull as well.

Well, at least it only took them 13 years to pay off the vessel they destroyed!