Did mikedbike get his KTM?

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xbacksideslider wrote:I'd be scared by that thing. Too light, fast, agile, and noisy, not to mention the fact that it tells you that you are doing something illegal.
For its power, the 1290R is light and agile, but it is very quiet stock, as the one in the magazine glamor shot is. Up to about the 168 mph top speed, which is a consequene of the naked design, the bike certainly is rightfully referred to as the Beast. Up to the normal speeds that even maniacs ride, say 140 mph tops, it can pretty much hold its own with anything on two wheels out there, especially with a "normal" size and weight rider.

But, motorcycles don't kill riders, the riders kill themselves. A motorcycle is only a tool to be used with proper respect and technique. So, I would not be scared at all by a 1290R Super Duke, but, the thought of a combo of said motorcycle and me, does scare me. And, this is why, although I sampled Brakelate's BMW K1300S, I refused to try his 1290R. I knew for a fact that the massive BMW would not stir up any lust at all in me. Had it been a Hayabusa, I would have not ridden it, but BMW's only appeal to a certain group, of which I am not a member. But, the 1290R would have been risky to ride since I might have instantly hated my 690 Duke and developed a terrible lust for a Super Duke. It is best to say NO to drugs rather than to just try one little fix.

But, for some, who are very skilled and perhaps bored with ordinary tame motorcycles, the hooligan orientated 1290R Super Duke is a good choice. Wheeiies at speeds up to and beyond 100 MPH. Massive gut wrenching acceleration up to at least 140 MPH. Acclaimed handling and world class brakes.

Scared is nature's way of telling you that you don't got what it takes. And, mature, reasonable, folks, don't get 1290R Super Dukes, as a consequence. Only mugs and hooligans get them.

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Re: Did mikedbike get his KTM?

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Good to see Norton John posting. I've almost called a couple more times to check on his medical improvement status, but did not want to bother him or his family.

But, after reading John's last post, and before turning the page to read Tetge's response, I too was going to comment that the Super Dukie is all of those things.... but anything but loud. Yet. :twisted:

No, it has some nice, raw mechanical 'big twin' serious, raw, 'un-insulated' (?) type noise from the engine at idle, etc. But, the exhaust? Not at all. It still has the full factory exhaust; from stock head pipes into the massive underbelly catalytic converter, on out to the nice, yet likely unnecessary muffler, as shown in the stock photo I posted prior to your comment.

I typically cringe at the idea of someone 'hacking up' a top shelf motorcycle. Especially one that everyone seems to hold in such high regard... sort of like taking a Sawzall to a Porsche's exhaust system or drilling holes in it's bumper for more brake cooling or something. On a track slave or a 'mid-range' , 'average', beater type of car, all bets are off. Mod it, make it work, to hell with cosmetics, or trying to maintain an image through the use of needlessly expensive fancy name products, when the raw basics will do.

Buying this bike used, that is sort of the freedom of mindset that I am enjoying. It is a sweet ass bike, but I have no guilt, intention or give a shit about ripping into it, to make it an even better performer, or usable, or even to be simply unique. But , function over all else is my clear goal. I may take a saw to the rear pipe right behind the catalytic box and just remove the whole pipe downstream. Unconventional? Yes. Functional? I will do some testing prior, by first unbolting the muffler a few inches further back, where the fitting actually is. Mechanical Blasphemy? Likely. If it works, it's going down. At least I may gain a slight bit of tone, but absolutely would shed whatever that muffler and hanger assembly weight. Plus, then I could have a more unobstructed view of the entire right side of the rear wheel, thanks to the single sided swing arm and all of that. Cool!

I may even add some little LED driving lights and some case saver type "crash bars" (Orange Trellis, of course) to save it in a tip over or low side slide. Hell, I may just end up with a 1290 Supermoto, sans the long travel suspension.

Now, funny. In comparison to the BMW as it sits, the attitude and intentions of that machine run completely to the contrary. I don't want to turn a screw on that thing. It has proven to be competent, comfortable, vicious and classy all in one machine, just as it sits. So, that will just get the 'detail and maintain' routine. Speaking of which, it's new rear tire showed up on the porch as well the other day. But, I am concerned about where I can take it to have it mounted without scratching it's pretty wheel.

I learned long ago, not to 'worship' machines one wishes to actually use. The new Busa, for example got scratched and pitted and showed annoying signs of just basic use and maintenance from close riding in the canyons with sand/pebble spray from leading bikes, to all the little scratches on the wheels, swing arm and various nuts, bolts and fasteners just from removing the wheels for tire swaps and chain adjustments, etc.

And the BMW seems that it gets rained on every time I take it out. It still has some bugs on it collected between Ventura and Flagstaff. I need to detail it.

But, the Dukie, I don't even have a concern about resale value or the slightest give a shit about others opinions on my mad modding of it. It is meant to be a personal point of excitement and twisted pleasure. And so, a Beast it shall be. However I see fit to tweak it.

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Brakelate wrote:....But, the Dukie, I don't even have a concern about resale value or the slightest give a shit about others opinions on my mad modding of it. It is meant to be a personal point of excitement and twisted pleasure. And so, a Beast it shall be. However I see fit to tweak it.... ;)
Sacrilege! Heresy! Keep it up and Otto and Hans will have to visit you and teach you some respect. It is fortunate that few visit this board, for, if word got out about this............. Words fail me.

And, BTW, think well before cutting any part of the KTM exhaust as new ones cost amazing sums.

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Put a search flag on Ebay for it. In case of that lowside you speak of, I got a complete muffler for the Honda for $50 shipped. I also got one for the GSXR, just in case; also got em for stealthy mods to the stock items. Tetge will be all over that, now, "Ah hah! there it is, proof! . . . . and by admission! . . . secret mods . . . " Except . . . . they're both on the shelf.

Stock exhausts are cheap when the bikes are new and guys are partially paying for the aftermarket one with proceeds of the sale of the stock one. There's a window in time . . .

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xbacksideslider wrote:.........Stock exhausts are cheap when the bikes are new and guys are partially paying for the aftermarket one with proceeds of the sale of the stock one. There's a window in time . . .
This may well be true for owners of lesser bikes than the elite 1290R Super Duke. However, the affluent set that purchases the top of the line KTM's, store the stock parts, if they even do any mods, as they know the value of being able to restore their machine to a nice pristine stock condition. These are pro level owners so, of course, they never crash their bikes, or if they ride in such a crazed manner that a crash might occur, they surely will have installed the KTM Power Parts crash protection on their valuable machine. You will not see duct tape on the bodywork and seat of a 1290R, but you will see it for sure on Japanese sports bikes.

There are standards, you know.

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So . . . . now that you ride a KTM, you're above us now, nose in the sky? Part of that affluent set, are we? :snooty:
Now, you're among those pro-level riders who can afford to hoard all those stock parts? :snooty:
You've lost your blue collar DRZ roots? Have you? :snooty:

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xbacksideslider wrote:So . . . . now that you ride a KTM, you're above us now, nose in the sky? Part of that affluent set, are we? :snooty:
Now, you're among those pro-level riders who can afford to hoard all those stock parts? :snooty:
You've lost your blue collar DRZ roots? Have you? :snooty:
Well, Brakelate? Is he correct about you? As the owner of an entry level KTM, I confess that I sometimes envy those affluent owners of 1290R Super Dukes. But, since the little 690 Duke was actually a big financial stretch for me, being as I am a blue collar DR-Z kind of guy, I never was able to even dream of owning a big 1290R. I also don't bother to dream of owning a Shelby GT350, as I struggle to keep my base level Mustang out of the hands of the repo man. The best that I can do is to vicariously experience things that I can never afford via such places as this forum. So, keep those posts and youtube videos coming.

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:violin:
I suspect that Brakelate paid about the same for his second hand Kaboomer as you did for your new one :mrgreen:

Further, I bought a cheap worn out elderly 2003 model, a "525," carbureted and it's really a 500.
You, on the other hand have that fuel injected fire breathing 700cc hooligan.

And unlike you, I drive old turbo Mopars, the newest one being from 1989 and the others from the mid '80s; in fact, I break their pistons so often with over boost (that I blame on the bad gas) that I have to have several of them, you know, for back ups. At least I don't have any car payments and the insurance companies think they are slow and the DMV says they're worthless and I never wash them or worry about door dings or unmanned shopping carts.

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xbacksideslider wrote::violin: I suspect that Brakelate paid about the same for his second hand Kaboomer as you did for your new one :mrgreen:
Brakelate is an expert on getting great deals on really clean used bikes but, even used his 1290R cost significantly more than my lowly 690. The 690 Duke still has a MSRP of $8995, and, with the revised 2016 coming along, dealers were discounting the slow selling prior models. The 1290R has a MSRP of $17995, and with the other elevated costs that dealer's tack on, costs about twice as much as a 690. And, insurance is about 50% more than the 690 as well.

It seems that in the US, only a handful of people can appreciate a big, slow, single cylinder, naked, motorcycle that costs more than some of the other entry level machines from Japan. So, even the local robber dealership matched the discounted CycleTrader prices to get the dog 690 off his floor. Where I took a real beating was on insurance, which was three times the rate of the DR-Z. And, parts and service on a KTM of any sort are pricey and some of it is so propitiatory that only authorized dealers can do it, since no one has cracked the ECU on the 2012 and up 690 Dukes. When a bike is drive by wire and everything goes through the locked down ECU, it can be an expensive thing to get worked on.

But, it did come with excellent tires and anti lock braking and a wee bit more HP than a DR-Z. So, for an elderly and slow old rider, such as I am, its light weight of approximately 350 pounds fully fueled, and its comfortable old school upright seating position, make it an acceptable bike to cruise around on, letting the big thumper tick away as I ride just under the posted limit, saint that I am.

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Re: Did mikedbike get his KTM?

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Yes I got my KTM a few weeks ago. 72cc bigger mtr,70# lighter,6 speed not 5 & injected! I sold my DRZ. I LOVE THE KTM!! I'm going to try to attach a picture. Hope it work! 2012 510cc dual sport converted to super moto. Definatley more HP but I can't find the rating any where.

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