Frasier Park Sunday - BSA Owners Club

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mikedbike2002 wrote:Okay I've been talking about money from my crash lawsuit & Tetge feels it's BS! But my lawyer texted me today & he is picking up the check from the county TODAY!!! It will have to clear his bank & then they cut my check. Supposed to meet him for lunch & my check late next week!! So I will be buying a CRF150bw and converting it to motard. Plus pep up the motor & suspension a bit. I have no desire to race but I love open track days with lots of bikes on the track. Plus I can take it up north when I visit Lisa & do track days with her. My back still will hurt but my bank balance will be healthier!
Never said it was BS. All I said was that the establishment uses every device to take as long to pay as possible and to pay as little as they can get away with. Also the process usually ends up requiring an attorney who gets some of the payout. If a person can wait without getting ruined, it is not so bad. But, in some cases, people are severely damaged mentally, physically, and financially, while waiting for an obvious just settlement.

However, now that you are going to be rich, I guess you can afford to ride out to breakfast one of these mornings. I might go on such a ride as long as you agree to wait up for me now and then, although I pretty much know the way to the restaurant in Leona Valley.

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Yum. Breakfast Ride. That was such the good deal! Nice, crisp ride down the Forest Hwy to wake you up, with no other traffic other than two CHP motor cops that were beamed down from the mother ship behind the stop sign.

The meet up leg stretching, tire kicking and ally pissing at the 7-11. Then the fun dash back up the hill. The nice patio dining of Steak and Eggs in leathers with more tall tales and ride reviews. Then the boogy home to peel off the gear, lube the chain, turn up the A/C and jump in the Lazy Boy for a full length de-briefing wrap up with Tetge on the phone before getting the "Gotta go back to work tomorrow morning Blues", then hitting the sack, good and worn out from a great weekend ride.

If I only knew then, what I had and how lucky we were to be in that position, geographically and with all the right people, bikes, schedules and personalities.


So, when is the next ride? My bike hasn't rolled on 500 miles in two years. The tires are getting weather cracked (ok, so they were that way when I had the spooned on there) but they ARE flat spotting and drying out, along with my battery and my carb gumming up, and my leathers shrinking, etc, etc.

Goddamned, drafting Mike up through Leona Valley after chasing him and Lisa up Little T and watching the madness that was more akin to the Isle of Bouquet Canyon TT with Tetge getting up there in the mix, along with whom ever else showed up for the ride. Good ol BacksideSlider for some epic up close and personal action footage of him on his Norton. All of it. Damn.

Gotta get fixed back up and out there to ride!!! :(

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"my leathers shrinking" :lol:

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C'mon. It is a well documented, long standing, scientifically proven phenomenon we all have faced. This is not something to be made light of. ;)

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Brakelate wrote:C'mon. It is a well documented, long standing, scientifically proven phenomenon we all have faced. This is not something to be made light of. ;)
I can attest to the truth of it. In fact, my leathers have shrunk to the point that I can't even wiggle into them, which was always hard before they got to be half their original size. And, when I broke out my heavy duty leather motorcycle jacket, I found that it had also shrunk to the extent that I almost couldn't zip it up, and, it used to be a bit large. My guess is that leather contracts when it sits around, and, it doesn't seem to stretch back out after this happens.

But, that's OK since I no longer ride with the leathers Nazi's. They all rightfully suit up when they ride since they all are super fast so they apparently need replaceable knee pucks, which leather have, to put onto the ground when they hang off in corners. I never asked but I think that a set of knee pucks might last, on the street, about as long as a rear tire. So, leathers are not really necessary, and, although I can not argue that they offer protection, they are also really uncomfortable in hot weather, particularly black, one piece suits, such as mine were before they shrunk.

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Brakelate wrote:Yum. Breakfast Ride. That was such the good deal! Nice, crisp ride down the Forest Hwy to wake you up, with no other traffic other than two CHP motor cops that were beamed down from the mother ship behind the stop sign.

The meet up leg stretching, tire kicking and ally pissing at the 7-11. Then the fun dash back up the hill. The nice patio dining of Steak and Eggs in leathers with more tall tales and ride reviews. Then the boogy home to peel off the gear, lube the chain, turn up the A/C and jump in the Lazy Boy for a full length de-briefing wrap up with Tetge on the phone before getting the "Gotta go back to work tomorrow morning Blues", then hitting the sack, good and worn out from a great weekend ride.

If I only knew then, what I had and how lucky we were to be in that position, geographically and with all the right people, bikes, schedules and personalities.


So, when is the next ride? My bike hasn't rolled on 500 miles in two years. The tires are getting weather cracked (ok, so they were that way when I had the spooned on there) but they ARE flat spotting and drying out, along with my battery and my carb gumming up, and my leathers shrinking, etc, etc.

Goddamned, drafting Mike up through Leona Valley after chasing him and Lisa up Little T and watching the madness that was more akin to the Isle of Bouquet Canyon TT with Tetge getting up there in the mix, along with whom ever else showed up for the ride. Good ol BacksideSlider for some epic up close and personal action footage of him on his Norton. All of it. Damn.

Gotta get fixed back up and out there to ride!!! :(

My last Breakfast ride was a few months back. 3 of us in the lead got speeding tickets! I made friends with the cop & even shook hands with him. The other 2 guys got the letter about court & bond, etc. I never got one. Turns out the cop never turned in the ticket. Lucked out on that one. Brakelate I would find it hard to move from this area because of the 12 month riding & great roads!

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mikedbike2002 wrote:...........My last Breakfast ride was a few months back. 3 of us in the lead got speeding tickets!.........
I'd say that speeding might not be a good idea at this point. On parts of Little T, it is not necessary to speed to go as quick as possible, and, Spunky only has a few spots on the uphill side where you could speed. Unfortunately, Bouquet Cyn does have some fast spots although they are mostly straight, so, a person could still have a bit of fun without speeding.

Still, the historic Mike, breakfast ride, may be a thing of the past if the CHP is going to continue to hammer bikes on the route. This is a shame, but, it really doesn't ruin things for me since I never speed, or pass over the double yellow, anyway. I just like to get out now and then and enjoy a leisurely ride. This has always been so, although I did fall under the evil influence of Brakelate, and the sundry mugs that he sought out, and I sometimes went 5 over the speed limit and I think that I may have passed over the double yellow once or twice back in those days. But, those days are over now and I am 100% reformed.

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Inexplicable correlation - since I quit eating lunch and started walking 18 holes twice a week, my leathers stopped shrinking. I think that is because I was concerned that they were withering away so I "fed" the leather with Neetsfoot oil? :think:

And Tetge, FYI, I have never ever touched a knee down, even on the race track. Can't do it, though I've tried. I do regard those knee pucks, however, as additional protection though. And, I was reading that Lorenzo says that he's winning now because he's moving less on the bike. That's what Schwantz taught when I went to his school at Barber but then he's an old guy too, not as old you though. :violin:

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xbacksideslider wrote:Inexplicable correlation - since I quit eating lunch and started walking 18 holes twice a week, my leathers stopped shrinking. I think that is because I was concerned that they were withering away so I "fed" the leather with Neetsfoot oil? :think:

And Tetge, FYI, I have never ever touched a knee down, even on the race track. Can't do it, though I've tried. I do regard those knee pucks, however, as additional protection though. And, I was reading that Lorenzo says that he's winning now because he's moving less on the bike. That's what Schwantz taught when I went to his school at Barber but then he's an old guy too, not as old you though. :violin:
Kevin's dad is our (Tetge / Walker) age. Maybe a year or two older.

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xbacksideslider wrote:Inexplicable correlation - since I quit eating lunch and started walking 18 holes twice a week, my leathers stopped shrinking. I think that is because I was concerned that they were withering away so I "fed" the leather with Neetsfoot oil? :think:

And Tetge, FYI, I have never ever touched a knee down, even on the race track. Can't do it, though I've tried. I do regard those knee pucks, however, as additional protection though.
Agreed regarding knee pucks. And though I can grind them down, even on the lankey-tall DRZ. But, largely I feel as I can go just as fast (if not faster) staying tucked in and hugging the machine. Hell, look at the fastest top three or so guys in our group... they are all strictly "Sit up and Beg", no lateral weight transfer or knee out, let alone down on the ground type of riders. On any variety of bikes which they own.

On the cop-bikes, even from extreme low-speed, high angle full-lock turns to high speed sweepers and transitions, I have practiced the discipline of "static form" riding. You just make up for it in different ways... a little more bar input or upper body strength to aid the snap over for example. Could I go quicker on a ST1300 knee down? Perhaps. But I also would get much more fatigued much more quickly. Thus, even in Supermoto Races I will switch up my style to preserve my energy and prolong endurance, by using different forms even in the same corner, during the same 20 minute session. Rotating the work to different parts of the body. This is important for a guy like me who was never really in prime shape, in terms of strength or cardio conditioning. I always fell back and concentrated on skill rather than achieving my ultimate best by really committing and combining both components.

It all depends on rider personal style, preference, experience 'coming up' and also each individual machine. Just like the foot out, or knee down style, I like to know I can do it (if nothing else it looks cool :shifty: ) but it is always a good idea to have as many styles, or "tools in one's belt" as possible. Like a Mixed Martial Artist. Punching or Kicking or Ground fighting is just not enough by itself. You need a nice, healthy, well-rounded skill set.

So, do what feels right, and works for you, when and where it works for you.

Just like moving around on the DRZ saddle on those days long rides. I will push back to the rear for a while, crunch my nuts up on the fuel tank cap for a while, ride side saddle, rotating time between each cheek carrying my excessive girth, spreading the load out and rotating the positioning, even to the point of at what angle I tilt my head and hold my shoulders - elbows up, elbows down, chin up, chin down, etc. It all adds up. And in a real long ride or race, those fleeting positions of comfort and stamina grow increasingly difficult to find or maintain. So I have found myself at times getting pretty creative with foot / peg positioning and hand placement on the bars, as well. It may look all crazy at times, but it is a deliberate pain saving, endurance aiding set of techniques that I have learned, and have helped when things go long and hard. So to speak. :?

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