I feel better

[jhwalker]

McDonalds has announced new policies to insure that chickens are slaughtered humanely.

[jhwalker]

Wonder if the guy who was bashing them with a sledge-hammer gets retrained?

[xbacksideslider]

Just what is "humanely?"

I mean, is it "oh yeah, its OK to kill a chicken so long as you do it in a way that a human would like to be killed?" Or, if its just killing painlessly, it's still killing, which presumably creates some kind of panic or terror even in a chicken's brain.

[jhwalker]

Just what is "humanely?"

I mean, is it "oh yeah, its OK to kill a chicken so long as you do it in a way that a human would like to be killed?" Or, if its just killing painlessly, it's still killing, which presumably creates some kind of panic or terror even in a chicken's brain.

How do we know the plants are not suffering when we throw them in boiling water, or grind them up? This discussion makes me hungry for some Popeye's chicken.

Pollo is the staple here. Big trucks loaded with little cages come rolling into town loaded to the gills. Day after day.

Do you think that chickens have a brain? Do they ponder why they cross the road? I think your post was intended to elicit a response... and it did

[xbacksideslider]

And when a chicken pecks at a bug or worm and its victim tries to escape . . . .?
And when the octopus roots of a vegetable reach out and suck up some tasty bacteria that can't get away . . . . .?

Almost all living things live off of other living things. Evolution did that. Evolution is the difference between inanimate material and animate life. Life creates options, options to react, to act, to avoid. There's the philosophy for ya Walker - that's where free will comes from.

[jhwalker]

And when a chicken pecks at a bug or worm and its victim tries to escape . . . .?
And when the octopus roots of a vegetable reach out and suck up some tasty bacteria that can't get away . . . . .?

Almost all living things live off of other living things. Evolution did that. Evolution is the difference between inanimate material and animate life. Life creates options, options to react, to act, to avoid. There's the philosophy for ya Walker - that's where free will comes from.

must re-read later tonight. I think I've lost the thread

[Tetge]

You lost me when you mentioned McDonald's. And, it also appears that you have never raised chickens. Us farmers know how dumb domesticated chickens are, and we also class them as food, not animals that need to be protected from harvesting. When I was still in high school, I raised a dairy steer from a baby, as the dairy had no use for steers. It grew into a large animal, and while not particularly animated or smart, it had a personality for sure. None the less, as a yearling, it was loaded onto a truck and taken to auction and sold off. And, we also raised sheep, and ate the cute little lambs with relish, as they were tasty. Chickens, who got their heads chopped off on a
large wooden stump with a sharp hatchet, were not even considered in any fashion to have any wit or personality.

So, other than genuine vegetarians, righteous animal lovers gall me, since one wonders where the steak that they eat came from, and where the steak bone that they give their doggie came from?

Chicken is going to end up dead, regardless.....

[jhwalker]

We raised chickens, pigs and I twice had a pet calf that I knew in 3-4 years would say goodbye as pet, and say hello as the contents of our freezer.
I could never warm up to chickens, or pigs. We have a couple veggie friends and they are a giant pain in the ass to go out to dinner with. I feel sorry the restaurant owners.

I grew up eating wings, legs and backs, I never asked where the white meat went. Probably were sold to the neighbors.

[xbacksideslider]

Does a chicken cross the road by free will?

[SonicVenum]

Fermi Paradox aside, what if there's some super-advanced species out there somewhere, and if/when they ever find us, we just look like a bunch dumb chickens living in our... poultry (paltry) three dimensions? Would we be edible and delicious to them?? Maybe we wouldn't feel any 4th/5th dimensional pain when they slaughtered us?